Reflexive no longer a portal?

Discussion in 'Indie Business' started by Roman Budzowski, Mar 31, 2010.

  1. Roman Budzowski

    Indie Author

    Joined:
    May 7, 2005
    Messages:
    839
    Likes Received:
    2
    Hi
    I just got this from them - "...as of June 30, 2010 Reflexive Entertainment, Inc. will be shifting its business to focus entirely on game development, and will therefore stop selling your games through Reflexive.com and Game Center Solution affiliates on that date."

    I gonna cry. One less portal to sell our games... or will it be two (incl. Amazon)? And it's the one I actually liked.

    Roman
     
  2. edmundba

    edmundba New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Reflexive.com Closing Shop on June 30

    Just saw this on reflexive.com:

    Valued Customers,

    As of June 30th, 2010, games will no longer be available for purchase on Reflexive.com.

    Please be sure to install and activate your purchases prior to July 31st, 2010.



    Wonder if this is the end for the affiliate program as well. Almost bet Amazon will try to roll affiliates into it's low payout program......... :(
     
  3. Musenik

    Original Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2004
    Messages:
    796
    Likes Received:
    0
    Reflexive is shuttering their portal. Huh?

    Got an email from Reflexive. Sounds like they are going to shift their operation to pure product development. I wonder if that means, Amazon will be eliminating their game downloads as well.

    Sad event, either way, but I wish Reflexive a brighter future.
     
  4. edmundba

    edmundba New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yep Affiliate Program is Dead

    You will continue to have access to the Control Center until July 31, 2010 at which time we will distribute your final royalty report to the email address we have on file and our agreement with you governing the Game Center Solution Affiliate Program will terminate.
     
  5. max196

    max196 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2008
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gamecentersolution will be terminated?

    I received this message. It's really shocking. Now what about us? :(

    Dear Valued Affiliate,

    I wanted to write to you today to thank you for your participation in the Game Center Solution Affiliate Program and to inform you that as of June 30, 2010, Reflexive Entertainment, Inc. will be terminating the Game Center Solution Affiliate program to focus entirely on game development.

    Between now and June 30, 2010, the Game Center Solution Affiliate Program will continue its business as usual. We will continue to provide web service and support and pay referral fees on every qualified sale through June 30, 2010. We will stop processing sales after that date and our agreement with you governing the Game Center Solution Affiliate Program will terminate on June 30, 2010.

    You will continue to have access to the Control Center until July 31, 2010 at which time we will distribute your final royalty report to the email address we have on file and our agreement with you governing the Game Center Solution Affiliate Program will terminate. Please be sure your contact information is current in our system.

    We wish you all the best and hope that we will have more opportunities to work together in the future.

    If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us at affiliatesupport@reflexive.net.

    Sincerely,

    Lars Brubaker

    CEO - Reflexive Entertainment, Inc.
     
  6. papillon

    Indie Author

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2004
    Messages:
    2,193
    Likes Received:
    0
    Head over to BMT/Plimus and start signing up as direct affiliates for everything?
     
  7. Desktop Gaming

    Moderator Original Member Indie Author

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2005
    Messages:
    2,293
    Likes Received:
    11
    Rules for business and general working life:

    Rule #1: No employer or business associate ever really gives a damn about you. Never ever let yourself believe otherwise.

    Rule #2: Arse cheeks should be permanently presented should anybody wish to give them a damn good kick.

    Rule #3: The use of umbrellas is prohibited as this will impede any employer or business associate from shitting all over you.

    ....so, you get the idea with that.
     
  8. Jack Norton

    Indie Author

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2004
    Messages:
    5,130
    Likes Received:
    0
    I can understand the frustration when you have built tons of pages around all those games... but it's not the end!
    As papillon says, there are plenty of games to affiliate both on Plimus and BMT, selling at $19.99 and up.
    One of those sales = same income of 6-7 portal sales :)
     
  9. Desktop Gaming

    Moderator Original Member Indie Author

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2005
    Messages:
    2,293
    Likes Received:
    11
    I suppose the biggest question is: Why?? You don't just ditch a catalog of over a thousand games without a very good reason, or an insanity certificate.

    And will others follow suit? I mean, as if dropping the retail price by 65% without bothering to tell anybody they were doing it wasn't enough of a kick in the balls. We're just onlookers really, aren't we?
     
  10. Spore Man

    Indie Author

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2007
    Messages:
    843
    Likes Received:
    0
    A casualty of the price wars is my guess. When the margins get squeezed too tight, it can become "not worth it".

    I'd appreciate anyone posting what is the next best affiliate program that's as easy to use... ? I know people said to pimp games directly but other than that, what's next best thing that's similar to Refelxive's program? BFG? Amazon affiliates (does their affiliate program even extend to the game downloads??)
     
  11. lennard

    Moderator Original Member Indie Author

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2006
    Messages:
    2,375
    Likes Received:
    9
    In a way this is an opportunity if people want to put in the work. I have enjoyed Reflexive because they bundled all the games neatly, I didn't have to worry about demo's just linking back to a dev's page and I knew I was going to get 40% and often if you work directly with a dev. you only get 30%...

    Anybody who has a decent game and wants to get it on the Rusty Axe site merely needs to pay 40%, carry my titles on their site and work with BMTMicro or TrialPay. If this is you then feel free to send me an email and we'll get it worked out.

    BTW, I got my titles back on Reflexive in February and thought it was going to be great. Net result is I haven't earned any more money and my traffic is way down as some of my affiliate chain switched over...
     
  12. papillon

    Indie Author

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2004
    Messages:
    2,193
    Likes Received:
    0
    Amazon game downloads are reflexive-supplied. Is Amazon dropping their download system entirely? Or will there be some transition between them? Reflexive bowing out of the business isn't a complete surprise, but as Amazon's business model was all about having everything it seems more strange that *they'd* drop the huge catalog.

    EDIT: Aha, just got mail from Amazon on that very subject.

    See the threads about BFG gutting their affiliate program to take back control, and everyone's income drying up completely. :) (I have yet to receive my final payout from the old thing closing, either...)
     
  13. Jack Norton

    Indie Author

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2004
    Messages:
    5,130
    Likes Received:
    0
    It's the dawn of a new era! The era of tolik and the MMOs!! :D
     
  14. Emmanuel

    Moderator Original Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2004
    Messages:
    859
    Likes Received:
    0
    They also parted ways with Terri Hardie, she will be missed; Paul Thelen and her are the two most trustworthy people in the industry. Hopefully Michael Mei is still onboard and Lars seems like a great guy too so hopefully they know what they are doing and they will do well. It does suck for all the affiliates, they had a pretty fearsome network.

    Best regards,
    Emmanuel
     
  15. Thomas@BMT

    Thomas@BMT New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2008
    Messages:
    116
    Likes Received:
    0
    You are watching a business plan unfold. :)

    (I don't think this happened by accident..)
     
  16. Roman Budzowski

    Indie Author

    Joined:
    May 7, 2005
    Messages:
    839
    Likes Received:
    2
    You probably got the message already, but if not, Amazon is taking over the charge. The good news is that they don't drop the revenue share (still at previous level).

    Recently I've seen higher sales for my games, but am not sure if it's because Amazon was new distribution channel or because Reflexive dropped the price.

    Hopefully this will work out well for developers.
     
  17. Pogacha

    Original Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2005
    Messages:
    605
    Likes Received:
    0
    A plan from who?
     
  18. Indinera

    Moderator Indie Author

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2008
    Messages:
    636
    Likes Received:
    0
    How exactly will we get our new games to appear on Amazon after June?
     
  19. Thomas@BMT

    Thomas@BMT New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2008
    Messages:
    116
    Likes Received:
    0
    I was just noting that big changes like this usually don't happen by accident but are part of a longer range plan.

    Usually... and I could of course be totally off base.
     
  20. Olivier

    Indie Author

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2005
    Messages:
    469
    Likes Received:
    0
    What about the customers wishing to re-download the game installers after June 30th? I guess we could download and host these at our websites.

    What about the customers wishing to reinstall their games after June 30th?
     

Share This Page

  • About Indie Gamer

    When the original Dexterity Forums closed in 2004, Indie Gamer was born and a diverse community has grown out of a passion for creating great games. Here you will find over 10 years of in-depth discussion on game design, the business of game development, and marketing/sales. Indie Gamer also provides a friendly place to meet up with other Developers, Artists, Composers and Writers.
  • Buy us a beer!

    Indie Gamer is delicately held together by a single poor bastard who thankfully gets help from various community volunteers. If you frequent this site or have found value in something you've learned here, help keep the site running by donating a few dollars (for beer of course)!

    Sure, I'll Buy You a Beer